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	<title>Comments on: 911 and Avian Flu Legislation Were For the Sake of Martial Law: Just Say No to Mandatory Vaccines</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Roux</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, Tantra. 

On the vaccines, our elder son was severely affected by his first three sets of vaccines. Luckily we stopped there and he has mostly recovered, although muscle development is still a problem. Our second son has never been vaccinated (except homeopathically) in his life and he has hardly ever been ill either. I learnt recently that my sister, who is staunchly conservative, stopped vaccinating her son because the vaccines were causing highly detrimental effects. Her daughter died at the age of 35 after 18 years of chronic illness. You have to ask what role vaccines played in this. My brother was classed as ESN (educationally sub normal) after receiving vaccines.

In our family&#039;s case, I guess that we have some genetic weakness that the vaccines exploit. We think that it is a difficulty absorbing  and converting vitamins and minerals.

A vaccine expert told me that mercury is not the only problem. All vaccines contain aluminium which is included in order to irritate the immune system so that it reacts to the live virus. Sometimes the system overreacts, resulting in allergies etc..

Our children will certainly not be vaccinated, and even more certainly not again swine &#039;flu.

I don&#039;t think that the end purpose is martial law. It is simply profit - the benefit to the politician&#039;s constituents, the benefit to the politician him / herself etc.. You will know of the case of the measles vaccine in the UK during the 1960s. Measles had virtually ceased to exist as any sort of serious threat to the population. The pharmaceutical company had a warehouse full of vaccine going out of date. Suddenly the government initiated a masive vaccination programme.

It does all sound like conspiracy theory but as the old joke goes about paranoia, &quot;Just because you are paranoid doesn&#039;t mean that they are not out to get you.&quot;

I actually sell machines that almost instantaneously kill all bacteria and viruses on which they have ever been tested (and viruses are particularly easy to kill). I have proposed a discussion with swine &#039;flu experts in both the UK and Belgium. They didn&#039;t even return my calls or e-mails. They are not remotely interested in anything which is not a vaccine, even though our machines are broad scope and otherwise harmless whereas vaccines are narrow scope and clearly damaging to at least some people.

Would governments etc. go to such lengths to falsify reports and create misinfirmation on a massive scale? Almost by definition, it is very hard to catch them doing it, but the WMD fiasco caught them absolutly red-handed.

I agree with Prentiss that a whole bucket full of conspiracy theories is best separated out, but I also agree with you that there was something extremely bizarre about 9/11 and the aftermath. Two things are strange about the aftermath in particular. One is that the attack on the Twin Towers was used as an excuse to invade Iraq which had an impeccable, if not over-enthusiastic, record in relation to the suppression of terrorists. Secondly, it is quite extraordinary how lazy and incompetent al Qa&#039;eda has been ever since. They must be the most farcical, dumb, laid back terrorists on earth to have achieved so little in so long a time. Then, of course, you have the known fact that Obama bin Laden was a CIA operative and the shipping of his family out of the US on the day of the attack.

I mentioned in response to another post that there is a story that Winston Churchill was implaccably opposed to the establishment of the State of Israel. However, he was also on the verge of bankruptcy and his house was about to be repossessed. The story goes that one of the Rothschild family offered to buy his house for him and to pay him for the publication of any book he should ever write. Suddenly, Winston Churchill did a massive volte face and saw some virtue in the establishment of the State of Israel after all. By these things policies change.

Read &#039;Flat Earth News&#039; by Nick Davies (if you haven&#039;t already) for a detailed account of how the news is manipulated by governments, with special reference to the WMD fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Tantra. </p>
<p>On the vaccines, our elder son was severely affected by his first three sets of vaccines. Luckily we stopped there and he has mostly recovered, although muscle development is still a problem. Our second son has never been vaccinated (except homeopathically) in his life and he has hardly ever been ill either. I learnt recently that my sister, who is staunchly conservative, stopped vaccinating her son because the vaccines were causing highly detrimental effects. Her daughter died at the age of 35 after 18 years of chronic illness. You have to ask what role vaccines played in this. My brother was classed as ESN (educationally sub normal) after receiving vaccines.</p>
<p>In our family&#8217;s case, I guess that we have some genetic weakness that the vaccines exploit. We think that it is a difficulty absorbing  and converting vitamins and minerals.</p>
<p>A vaccine expert told me that mercury is not the only problem. All vaccines contain aluminium which is included in order to irritate the immune system so that it reacts to the live virus. Sometimes the system overreacts, resulting in allergies etc..</p>
<p>Our children will certainly not be vaccinated, and even more certainly not again swine &#8216;flu.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the end purpose is martial law. It is simply profit &#8211; the benefit to the politician&#8217;s constituents, the benefit to the politician him / herself etc.. You will know of the case of the measles vaccine in the UK during the 1960s. Measles had virtually ceased to exist as any sort of serious threat to the population. The pharmaceutical company had a warehouse full of vaccine going out of date. Suddenly the government initiated a masive vaccination programme.</p>
<p>It does all sound like conspiracy theory but as the old joke goes about paranoia, &#8220;Just because you are paranoid doesn&#8217;t mean that they are not out to get you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually sell machines that almost instantaneously kill all bacteria and viruses on which they have ever been tested (and viruses are particularly easy to kill). I have proposed a discussion with swine &#8216;flu experts in both the UK and Belgium. They didn&#8217;t even return my calls or e-mails. They are not remotely interested in anything which is not a vaccine, even though our machines are broad scope and otherwise harmless whereas vaccines are narrow scope and clearly damaging to at least some people.</p>
<p>Would governments etc. go to such lengths to falsify reports and create misinfirmation on a massive scale? Almost by definition, it is very hard to catch them doing it, but the WMD fiasco caught them absolutly red-handed.</p>
<p>I agree with Prentiss that a whole bucket full of conspiracy theories is best separated out, but I also agree with you that there was something extremely bizarre about 9/11 and the aftermath. Two things are strange about the aftermath in particular. One is that the attack on the Twin Towers was used as an excuse to invade Iraq which had an impeccable, if not over-enthusiastic, record in relation to the suppression of terrorists. Secondly, it is quite extraordinary how lazy and incompetent al Qa&#8217;eda has been ever since. They must be the most farcical, dumb, laid back terrorists on earth to have achieved so little in so long a time. Then, of course, you have the known fact that Obama bin Laden was a CIA operative and the shipping of his family out of the US on the day of the attack.</p>
<p>I mentioned in response to another post that there is a story that Winston Churchill was implaccably opposed to the establishment of the State of Israel. However, he was also on the verge of bankruptcy and his house was about to be repossessed. The story goes that one of the Rothschild family offered to buy his house for him and to pay him for the publication of any book he should ever write. Suddenly, Winston Churchill did a massive volte face and saw some virtue in the establishment of the State of Israel after all. By these things policies change.</p>
<p>Read &#8216;Flat Earth News&#8217; by Nick Davies (if you haven&#8217;t already) for a detailed account of how the news is manipulated by governments, with special reference to the WMD fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: Prentiss gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prentiss gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your notes on thimerisol are partly valid. Too bad you took on so many other &quot;conpiracies&quot; and buried it. Honestly, even if your fact were not &quot;cherry-picked&quot; and suspect, there are just too many for a convincing case.  Know what I mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your notes on thimerisol are partly valid. Too bad you took on so many other &#8220;conpiracies&#8221; and buried it. Honestly, even if your fact were not &#8220;cherry-picked&#8221; and suspect, there are just too many for a convincing case.  Know what I mean?</p>
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