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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcoholism is the new death wish…..so go ahead and take another sip. we need to offer a hand to those in need of help. Help by helping, not by avoiding…come on people

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcoholism is the new death wish…..so go ahead and take another sip. we need to offer a hand to those in need of help. Help by helping, not by avoiding…come on people</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Posey-Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Posey-Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drinking came into my life and began to destroy my purpose. It took me a long time to realise what it was doing to me. I was on my way to being totally destroyed by it.

One day, one my knees, I asked God to take the desire to drink away from me. Slowly day by day, weekend by weekend, the desire to be what He wanted me to be overcame the desire to drink. 

Now, I watch as many of my friends from high school and college drink themselves into oblivion. They have lost their jobs, their families and now cannot even carry on a conversation. They drink in front of and even with their teenage kids.  

What used to appear as fun,the party, has become sickening. I used to be right in the middle of the party. Now, I don&#039;t go to the parties. I couldn&#039;t stand being in the midst of the pain and suffering they try to cover up. 

God created us for a reason. Satan created alcohol to keep us from fulfilling God&#039;s reason for our lives. 

We are created with a hole in our soul that only God can fill. It is a choice if we try to fill the round hole with a square peg of alcohol, drugs, sex and whatever else the devil throws our way. There is no joy, no peace, no healing until the created fills the hole with the Creator.

Bob, I am sorry for the loss of your brother. And to everyone who has loved and lost loved ones. Their choices were not your fault. Everyone has a personal choice to make. Families and loved ones can try to help them find their way but inevitably each individual person controls their choices. 

Our society and Babylonian type culture shares the blame for offering the poisons. Calling bad good and good bad-- our culture is declining at a rapid rate, taking many who are weak, in pain and suffering, with it. 

God teaches us to be strong and of good courage. Those who choose Jesus, choose right. He can and will break any addiction. But, we must be willing to surrender it to Him. It is a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drinking came into my life and began to destroy my purpose. It took me a long time to realise what it was doing to me. I was on my way to being totally destroyed by it.</p>
<p>One day, one my knees, I asked God to take the desire to drink away from me. Slowly day by day, weekend by weekend, the desire to be what He wanted me to be overcame the desire to drink. </p>
<p>Now, I watch as many of my friends from high school and college drink themselves into oblivion. They have lost their jobs, their families and now cannot even carry on a conversation. They drink in front of and even with their teenage kids.  </p>
<p>What used to appear as fun,the party, has become sickening. I used to be right in the middle of the party. Now, I don&#8217;t go to the parties. I couldn&#8217;t stand being in the midst of the pain and suffering they try to cover up. </p>
<p>God created us for a reason. Satan created alcohol to keep us from fulfilling God&#8217;s reason for our lives. </p>
<p>We are created with a hole in our soul that only God can fill. It is a choice if we try to fill the round hole with a square peg of alcohol, drugs, sex and whatever else the devil throws our way. There is no joy, no peace, no healing until the created fills the hole with the Creator.</p>
<p>Bob, I am sorry for the loss of your brother. And to everyone who has loved and lost loved ones. Their choices were not your fault. Everyone has a personal choice to make. Families and loved ones can try to help them find their way but inevitably each individual person controls their choices. </p>
<p>Our society and Babylonian type culture shares the blame for offering the poisons. Calling bad good and good bad&#8211; our culture is declining at a rapid rate, taking many who are weak, in pain and suffering, with it. </p>
<p>God teaches us to be strong and of good courage. Those who choose Jesus, choose right. He can and will break any addiction. But, we must be willing to surrender it to Him. It is a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri Stanczak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri Stanczak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a little bit about the guilt you talked about. My brother-in-law is an alcoholic. When I first met my husband, they always served beer at their family parties. Usually we all drank a few beers and had a good time. It didn&#039;t seem to be a problem - just a social gathering. When my brother-in-law went through his divorce, we didn&#039;t realize how bad things got for him until he checked himself into a rehab center. Evidently he went on these drinking binges for days at a time. He would drink until he passed out and then wake up and go get more beer. After he lost most of his customers at his business and he realized we all knew what was going on, he started drinking Vodka to hide the smell. It has been several years since his first divorce. Since then, he has had a few girlfriends that he met in AA and he even remarried. However, within a year, she left him too and took so much from the house. He didn&#039;t even fight for any of it. It&#039;s like he has just lost his will to live. He doesn&#039;t work at all now. His 80 year old mom is paying his bills and he is just drowning himself in a pool of alcohol. We are all afraid to say anything to him for fear of him being suicidal. My husband thought that maybe we should try an intervention. We could get his mom, his brothers and some of his friends together and tell him how much we love and care for him. Then take him to rehab again. It is such a difficult situation. You will be in my prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a little bit about the guilt you talked about. My brother-in-law is an alcoholic. When I first met my husband, they always served beer at their family parties. Usually we all drank a few beers and had a good time. It didn&#8217;t seem to be a problem &#8211; just a social gathering. When my brother-in-law went through his divorce, we didn&#8217;t realize how bad things got for him until he checked himself into a rehab center. Evidently he went on these drinking binges for days at a time. He would drink until he passed out and then wake up and go get more beer. After he lost most of his customers at his business and he realized we all knew what was going on, he started drinking Vodka to hide the smell. It has been several years since his first divorce. Since then, he has had a few girlfriends that he met in AA and he even remarried. However, within a year, she left him too and took so much from the house. He didn&#8217;t even fight for any of it. It&#8217;s like he has just lost his will to live. He doesn&#8217;t work at all now. His 80 year old mom is paying his bills and he is just drowning himself in a pool of alcohol. We are all afraid to say anything to him for fear of him being suicidal. My husband thought that maybe we should try an intervention. We could get his mom, his brothers and some of his friends together and tell him how much we love and care for him. Then take him to rehab again. It is such a difficult situation. You will be in my prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: SpeakWithout</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpeakWithout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine sent these comments to me:

Bob, my condolences on the loss of your brother. &quot;Cunning, baffling, powerful&quot; is how the Alcoholics Anonymous &quot;Big Book&quot; describes the effects of alcohol. It is very, very hard to see a loved one commit suicide with alcohol [or drugs], but left to their own stinkin&#039; thinkin&#039;, this is how many alcoholics end up. Alcoholism is a disease. It is also a symptom of a greater, deeper problem that the individual uses alcohol to hide from. Without accepting that one is powerless over alcohol, it is highly unlikely that the alcoholic can recover and be restored to a fulfilling life.


I speak from experience. I know exactly why I became an alcoholic and that there were other alcoholics in my family history. I also know that certain events in my life gave me a craving in my soul - a hole in my chest is how it felt - that I sought to fill with a variety of addictive &quot;medications&quot; such as alcohol. Left to my own stinkin&#039; thinkin&#039;, there was no way I would ever be able to overcome my alcoholism. 


I wasn&#039;t a nasty, unpleasant drunk - I preferred to drink at home over going to bars, was never arrested for drunk driving [or anything else, for that matter, but which is not to say I wasn&#039;t guilty of other innumerable stupid and offensive acts], and usually passed out after consuming prodigious amounts of liquor. I surrendered to the simple program of Alcoholics Anonymous in 1991. Two events drove me to AA: one was a profound conversation with a guy named Larry, who shared his experience, strength and hope with me and helped me understand and accept the tenets of this simple program of recovery. The other was separating from my wife at the time, who also had a drinking problem [no one but the alcoholic themselves can determine if they are an alcoholic] and being advised by our marriage counselor that AA was worth looking into. 


I embraced this program completely. I made peace with myself and accepted a Higher Power in my life, even learned how to get on my knees and express my gratitude through prayer and meditation. For me, this is a spiritual program, not a religious one. I believe there is a power greater than myself, but I don&#039;t go to church to find it. I am completely convinced that alcohol and spiritualism are like oil and water: I cannot live a spiritual life if I&#039;m abusing alcohol. 


I worked all the steps, and it was good, hard work. I made my amends to those I&#039;d hurt and offered myself in service to other suffering alcoholics. I tried to practice what I&#039;d learned in all my affairs, every day of my life. Then, after ten years in AA, I went back out. I was living in a different place and had found a new, loving relationship with a woman who had no addiction issues. I thought I could have a glass of wine at dinner with her, that I could drink in safety as we say. It worked for a while, but alcoholism is a progressive disease and after five years I was hitting the bottle hard again. It was now 2008 and I was the same drunk I&#039;d been before I got sober in 1991. Worst of all, my alcoholism had blinded me to how much I was hurting my wife, her son, and my mother. Through the grace of my Higher Power, I had a conversation with my brother who helped me understand this. That very day, in January 2009, I put down alcohol, went to an AA meeting, and once more embarked upon practicing this beautiful, simple way of life. 


Crazy as it seems, I found that my mind is capable of convincing me to do something that has the power to kill the rest of me. This is how &quot;cunning, baffling and powerful&quot; alcohol is. It seems that your brother did not recognize the threat it posed. He is not alone: many have died from their addiction. I&#039;m not sure there is any way for a non-alcoholic person to understand what goes on in the mind of an active alcoholic. Larry, who was responsible for getting me pointed toward AA, died a few months ago of kidney failure - a direct result of his alcohol abuse. He was sober for over 20 years, 61 years old, and left a wife and two young sons. 


What does it take to &quot;get it&quot; about alcohol? The Big Book says:


&quot;Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the agnostic, and our personal adventure before and after make clear three pertinent ideas:


(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved our alcoholism.
(c) That God could and would if He were sought.&quot; 


Again I stress this is not a religious program - in fact, an inside &quot;joke&quot; is that church members meet upstairs, while AA members meet in the basement - but it is about finding the God of your own understanding, the Higher Power to which/whom you can relinquish control. As long as the alcoholic thinks he or she is in charge, in control, there is no way to give oneself to this program of recovery. I know this from personal experience. When, after ten years of good, solid recovery, I thought I was in charge and could drink in safety, I went back out and found I could not. I don&#039;t regret it; I learned, once and for all, what/who really is in charge. It was a lesson I needed to learn. I love this program and the life it has given me. My family is happy and happy for me. All I have to do is not drink, one day at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine sent these comments to me:</p>
<p>Bob, my condolences on the loss of your brother. &#8220;Cunning, baffling, powerful&#8221; is how the Alcoholics Anonymous &#8220;Big Book&#8221; describes the effects of alcohol. It is very, very hard to see a loved one commit suicide with alcohol [or drugs], but left to their own stinkin&#8217; thinkin&#8217;, this is how many alcoholics end up. Alcoholism is a disease. It is also a symptom of a greater, deeper problem that the individual uses alcohol to hide from. Without accepting that one is powerless over alcohol, it is highly unlikely that the alcoholic can recover and be restored to a fulfilling life.</p>
<p>I speak from experience. I know exactly why I became an alcoholic and that there were other alcoholics in my family history. I also know that certain events in my life gave me a craving in my soul &#8211; a hole in my chest is how it felt &#8211; that I sought to fill with a variety of addictive &#8220;medications&#8221; such as alcohol. Left to my own stinkin&#8217; thinkin&#8217;, there was no way I would ever be able to overcome my alcoholism. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t a nasty, unpleasant drunk &#8211; I preferred to drink at home over going to bars, was never arrested for drunk driving [or anything else, for that matter, but which is not to say I wasn't guilty of other innumerable stupid and offensive acts], and usually passed out after consuming prodigious amounts of liquor. I surrendered to the simple program of Alcoholics Anonymous in 1991. Two events drove me to AA: one was a profound conversation with a guy named Larry, who shared his experience, strength and hope with me and helped me understand and accept the tenets of this simple program of recovery. The other was separating from my wife at the time, who also had a drinking problem [no one but the alcoholic themselves can determine if they are an alcoholic] and being advised by our marriage counselor that AA was worth looking into. </p>
<p>I embraced this program completely. I made peace with myself and accepted a Higher Power in my life, even learned how to get on my knees and express my gratitude through prayer and meditation. For me, this is a spiritual program, not a religious one. I believe there is a power greater than myself, but I don&#8217;t go to church to find it. I am completely convinced that alcohol and spiritualism are like oil and water: I cannot live a spiritual life if I&#8217;m abusing alcohol. </p>
<p>I worked all the steps, and it was good, hard work. I made my amends to those I&#8217;d hurt and offered myself in service to other suffering alcoholics. I tried to practice what I&#8217;d learned in all my affairs, every day of my life. Then, after ten years in AA, I went back out. I was living in a different place and had found a new, loving relationship with a woman who had no addiction issues. I thought I could have a glass of wine at dinner with her, that I could drink in safety as we say. It worked for a while, but alcoholism is a progressive disease and after five years I was hitting the bottle hard again. It was now 2008 and I was the same drunk I&#8217;d been before I got sober in 1991. Worst of all, my alcoholism had blinded me to how much I was hurting my wife, her son, and my mother. Through the grace of my Higher Power, I had a conversation with my brother who helped me understand this. That very day, in January 2009, I put down alcohol, went to an AA meeting, and once more embarked upon practicing this beautiful, simple way of life. </p>
<p>Crazy as it seems, I found that my mind is capable of convincing me to do something that has the power to kill the rest of me. This is how &#8220;cunning, baffling and powerful&#8221; alcohol is. It seems that your brother did not recognize the threat it posed. He is not alone: many have died from their addiction. I&#8217;m not sure there is any way for a non-alcoholic person to understand what goes on in the mind of an active alcoholic. Larry, who was responsible for getting me pointed toward AA, died a few months ago of kidney failure &#8211; a direct result of his alcohol abuse. He was sober for over 20 years, 61 years old, and left a wife and two young sons. </p>
<p>What does it take to &#8220;get it&#8221; about alcohol? The Big Book says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the agnostic, and our personal adventure before and after make clear three pertinent ideas:</p>
<p>(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.<br />
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved our alcoholism.<br />
(c) That God could and would if He were sought.&#8221; </p>
<p>Again I stress this is not a religious program &#8211; in fact, an inside &#8220;joke&#8221; is that church members meet upstairs, while AA members meet in the basement &#8211; but it is about finding the God of your own understanding, the Higher Power to which/whom you can relinquish control. As long as the alcoholic thinks he or she is in charge, in control, there is no way to give oneself to this program of recovery. I know this from personal experience. When, after ten years of good, solid recovery, I thought I was in charge and could drink in safety, I went back out and found I could not. I don&#8217;t regret it; I learned, once and for all, what/who really is in charge. It was a lesson I needed to learn. I love this program and the life it has given me. My family is happy and happy for me. All I have to do is not drink, one day at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnette Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnette Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It always hurts me to hear or see people live through the pain of others. It is obvious from your beautifully thought out post that you loved your brother and would have done anything to help him. And you did. How does the saying go? We can lead a horse to water but we can&#039;t make it drink?
There is a loneliness in opening old wounds, but there is also bravery when you step out of your sadness and make us see how devastating life can be for those left behind. I stopped my daughters from visiting my mother in law and my husband&#039;s stepfather when I observed him trying to get them to kiss him when he was drunk. No child should have to endure the mauling of a drunk person. I could not stop the man from drinking and neither could his wife. She actually never tried. But i did what a few thought was wrong, denying him to opportunity to be with my children. I could not take the chance that his wife, an enabler who always made sure there was plenty for him to drink in the house in order to keep him AND keep him happy, would allow my children to travel with him while he was drunk. The next time the girls went to visit he was in jail, serving a full year for drunk driving. When he got out much to my anger he still had a driver&#039;s license. To me that was a license to kill.
He never asked for help, he only cared about himself and that created a rift in the family. By the time he died he had moved away from his wife to live with his friends, most in the same condition. He could fix anything like your brother but I never got to know him because he was always drunk and in trouble. Our suggestions of getting help were considered getting in his business as well as thinking we were better than my in laws. Made no sense so we lived our lives without him. That was all we could do. I never thought we could do more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always hurts me to hear or see people live through the pain of others. It is obvious from your beautifully thought out post that you loved your brother and would have done anything to help him. And you did. How does the saying go? We can lead a horse to water but we can&#8217;t make it drink?<br />
There is a loneliness in opening old wounds, but there is also bravery when you step out of your sadness and make us see how devastating life can be for those left behind. I stopped my daughters from visiting my mother in law and my husband&#8217;s stepfather when I observed him trying to get them to kiss him when he was drunk. No child should have to endure the mauling of a drunk person. I could not stop the man from drinking and neither could his wife. She actually never tried. But i did what a few thought was wrong, denying him to opportunity to be with my children. I could not take the chance that his wife, an enabler who always made sure there was plenty for him to drink in the house in order to keep him AND keep him happy, would allow my children to travel with him while he was drunk. The next time the girls went to visit he was in jail, serving a full year for drunk driving. When he got out much to my anger he still had a driver&#8217;s license. To me that was a license to kill.<br />
He never asked for help, he only cared about himself and that created a rift in the family. By the time he died he had moved away from his wife to live with his friends, most in the same condition. He could fix anything like your brother but I never got to know him because he was always drunk and in trouble. Our suggestions of getting help were considered getting in his business as well as thinking we were better than my in laws. Made no sense so we lived our lives without him. That was all we could do. I never thought we could do more.</p>
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		<title>By: José Antonio de la Vega</title>
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		<dc:creator>José Antonio de la Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luego de leer los comentarios previos al mío, fuera de lo que agregue el sentido de mi idioma y mi cultura, es poco lo que puedo añadir; y de modo especial en cuanto al tema de tus habilidades literarias, Bob.

Corroboro que no es poco frecuente que en las familias haya al menos un alcohólico o drogadicto o dependiente en algún grado. Siendo ciertísimo que el peso de la genética determina la enfermedad, desafortunadamente aun existiendo la tecnología más avanzada, no es un dato que se sepa hoy por hoy desde el nacimiento o antes como una medida de prevención, así que en general todos hemos de sucumbir al gusto, a la presión social, a los trastornos neuronales... a nuestra condición de humanos.

Como enfermedad muy estudiada, el alcoholismo en realidad no es difícil de entender a pesar de su complejidad. Y eso quedó claro en algunos de los comentarios ya anotados arriba. En cuanto a sus dimensiones sociológicas, económicas y hasta políticas, tampoco es arduo comprender causas y efectos que la determinan.

Lo preocupante, lo delicado y abstruso es su dimensión fundamental, la humana. Es ahí donde resbalamos fácilmente, tanto los enfermos como quienes los rodeamos o conocemos. El fenómeno ocasiona preguntas alrededor de la identidad del hombre. Invariablemente se asocia, como le decía en mi respectivo comentario a Apple (Sobriety Girl), con valores como la felicidad, el amor, la vida, la muerte, la razón de ser lo que se es. Si en lo biológico su trasfondo es genético y neuronal, en lo esencial es axiológico.

En la hondura de su alma, el adicto no se pregunta por qué hace lo que hace, no justifica su &quot;vicio&quot;, no se identifica como enfermo sencillamente porque está extraviado en su identidad. La pregunta que finalmente le atormenta es &quot;quién soy&quot;, y para hallar una probable respuesta siempre cambiante depende de sucedáneos de la iluminación, como muestra en broma el chiste aquel del ebrio que, cuestionado sobre las razones por las que bebe responde: &quot;Bebo, para olvidar&quot;; y el cantinero insiste: &quot;¿Para olvidar, qué?; a lo que contesta el borracho: &quot;Que bebo&quot;. Claro que esto puede suceder mientras el enfermo tenga conciencia de su estado, aunque lo niegue; porque en el momento que pierde la noción de lo real, se extravía, como nosotros mediante estas líneas y en cierto modo, en un mundo ficticio, virtual, donde todo se hace posible y hasta lo efímero tiene aspiraciones de eternidad.

Quienes han perdido un ser querido a consecuencia directa o indirecta del alcoholismo, lo difícil de asimilar no es tanto la enfermedad en sí, sino los caminos tortuosos que llevan desde ella a la muerte, accidental o propiciada.

El familiar del alcohólico busca por otros medios menos destructivos comprender lo mismo que el enfermo, pero además en función de éste. No se pregunta tanto, por qué bebía, sino cuestiona cosas más densas como por qué, si &quot;sabía&quot; que eso acabaría con su vida, continuó hasta lo irremediable; por qué procurar la agonía tortuosa del desanimo para apurar el trago amargo de la angustia que sigue a la muerte; por qué tanto egoísmo. Y estas son sólo algunas de miles de dudas que pueden ocurrir en la mente del deudo de un adicto.

Pero aún más, lo importante entonces no es ya si el ser querido y ahora ausente fue o no alcohólico. Con el transcurso del tiempo todo se resume en inquirir ¿por qué él o ella?; ¿por qué así? Preguntas que todos, yo mismo desde hace cinco meses cuando murió mi madre (que para mí fue mi todo), nos hacemos cuando un ser amado fallece y a veces aún antes.

Así, sin restarle importancia, el alcoholismo per se no es lo que inquieta, sino sus causas y efectos en la constitución de eso que denominamos Hombre. Pensar alrededor del alcoholismo es sólo una de muchas meditaciones acerca de lo que significa ser Humano.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luego de leer los comentarios previos al mío, fuera de lo que agregue el sentido de mi idioma y mi cultura, es poco lo que puedo añadir; y de modo especial en cuanto al tema de tus habilidades literarias, Bob.</p>
<p>Corroboro que no es poco frecuente que en las familias haya al menos un alcohólico o drogadicto o dependiente en algún grado. Siendo ciertísimo que el peso de la genética determina la enfermedad, desafortunadamente aun existiendo la tecnología más avanzada, no es un dato que se sepa hoy por hoy desde el nacimiento o antes como una medida de prevención, así que en general todos hemos de sucumbir al gusto, a la presión social, a los trastornos neuronales&#8230; a nuestra condición de humanos.</p>
<p>Como enfermedad muy estudiada, el alcoholismo en realidad no es difícil de entender a pesar de su complejidad. Y eso quedó claro en algunos de los comentarios ya anotados arriba. En cuanto a sus dimensiones sociológicas, económicas y hasta políticas, tampoco es arduo comprender causas y efectos que la determinan.</p>
<p>Lo preocupante, lo delicado y abstruso es su dimensión fundamental, la humana. Es ahí donde resbalamos fácilmente, tanto los enfermos como quienes los rodeamos o conocemos. El fenómeno ocasiona preguntas alrededor de la identidad del hombre. Invariablemente se asocia, como le decía en mi respectivo comentario a Apple (Sobriety Girl), con valores como la felicidad, el amor, la vida, la muerte, la razón de ser lo que se es. Si en lo biológico su trasfondo es genético y neuronal, en lo esencial es axiológico.</p>
<p>En la hondura de su alma, el adicto no se pregunta por qué hace lo que hace, no justifica su &#8220;vicio&#8221;, no se identifica como enfermo sencillamente porque está extraviado en su identidad. La pregunta que finalmente le atormenta es &#8220;quién soy&#8221;, y para hallar una probable respuesta siempre cambiante depende de sucedáneos de la iluminación, como muestra en broma el chiste aquel del ebrio que, cuestionado sobre las razones por las que bebe responde: &#8220;Bebo, para olvidar&#8221;; y el cantinero insiste: &#8220;¿Para olvidar, qué?; a lo que contesta el borracho: &#8220;Que bebo&#8221;. Claro que esto puede suceder mientras el enfermo tenga conciencia de su estado, aunque lo niegue; porque en el momento que pierde la noción de lo real, se extravía, como nosotros mediante estas líneas y en cierto modo, en un mundo ficticio, virtual, donde todo se hace posible y hasta lo efímero tiene aspiraciones de eternidad.</p>
<p>Quienes han perdido un ser querido a consecuencia directa o indirecta del alcoholismo, lo difícil de asimilar no es tanto la enfermedad en sí, sino los caminos tortuosos que llevan desde ella a la muerte, accidental o propiciada.</p>
<p>El familiar del alcohólico busca por otros medios menos destructivos comprender lo mismo que el enfermo, pero además en función de éste. No se pregunta tanto, por qué bebía, sino cuestiona cosas más densas como por qué, si &#8220;sabía&#8221; que eso acabaría con su vida, continuó hasta lo irremediable; por qué procurar la agonía tortuosa del desanimo para apurar el trago amargo de la angustia que sigue a la muerte; por qué tanto egoísmo. Y estas son sólo algunas de miles de dudas que pueden ocurrir en la mente del deudo de un adicto.</p>
<p>Pero aún más, lo importante entonces no es ya si el ser querido y ahora ausente fue o no alcohólico. Con el transcurso del tiempo todo se resume en inquirir ¿por qué él o ella?; ¿por qué así? Preguntas que todos, yo mismo desde hace cinco meses cuando murió mi madre (que para mí fue mi todo), nos hacemos cuando un ser amado fallece y a veces aún antes.</p>
<p>Así, sin restarle importancia, el alcoholismo per se no es lo que inquieta, sino sus causas y efectos en la constitución de eso que denominamos Hombre. Pensar alrededor del alcoholismo es sólo una de muchas meditaciones acerca de lo que significa ser Humano.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, you need not be a degree holder or graduate of journalism to be a writer. You need not be a proclaimed or published one to be a writer. Writing is an art, it is a passion, an expression of one&#039;s thoughts that nobody can convey. And for me, you are one great writer. And I am moved by your post because if you have read my previous post in sobriety girl&#039;s article, I mentioned that my brother too is an alcoholic. 

There are issues in our lives which we try to bury, issues that we try to outlive, but in the end it still haunts us, in our dreams, in our work, or sometimes even in the persons that we meet.

You have given me a topic to post about, I guess I will follow your lead. One of these days I will tell a story, a story of an alcoholic still living today whom we try to help the best as we could, but refuses help and pushes us away all the time. The story of my brother. 

Godspeed Bob!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, you need not be a degree holder or graduate of journalism to be a writer. You need not be a proclaimed or published one to be a writer. Writing is an art, it is a passion, an expression of one&#8217;s thoughts that nobody can convey. And for me, you are one great writer. And I am moved by your post because if you have read my previous post in sobriety girl&#8217;s article, I mentioned that my brother too is an alcoholic. </p>
<p>There are issues in our lives which we try to bury, issues that we try to outlive, but in the end it still haunts us, in our dreams, in our work, or sometimes even in the persons that we meet.</p>
<p>You have given me a topic to post about, I guess I will follow your lead. One of these days I will tell a story, a story of an alcoholic still living today whom we try to help the best as we could, but refuses help and pushes us away all the time. The story of my brother. </p>
<p>Godspeed Bob!</p>
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		<title>By: George Polley</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Polley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a writer, Bob, as others have said, and a darned good one at that, because you write in a clearly communicates.

I didn&#039;t start drinking until I was 32 &amp; had completed my graduate degrees. I knew about my family&#039;s history with alcoholism -- an uncle on each side of my family, one of them a PTSD- afflicted WWI combat veteran, and wasn&#039;t interested in becoming one of &quot;those.&quot; Then I began drinking with coworkers after work on Friday&#039;s...and over the next 12 years managed to ruin my marriage and lose several jobs. Over my years as a mental health professional, treating addicts, I learned how radically disconnecting addictions are. Addicts become connected to one thing, and that is the rush, the &quot;high&quot; from getting drunk, snorting, shooting up, watching porn, gambling, doing whatever. In the process, they disconnect from people around them, and don&#039;t develop deep emotional relationships with people. Sobriety begins with disconnecting from what gives them the &quot;high&quot; and learning to reconnect with themselves and others, learning to connect with reality without a crutch or needing to run to the &quot;high&quot; for escape. When I began drinking, I drank to get drunk, because I thought it &quot;freed&quot; me from my inhibitions (it sure did do that!), and made me &quot;free&quot;. Instead, it led me into slavery, just like it does everyone else.

An acquaintance wrote the following poem, which I found printed in &quot;Real Change&quot;, a Seattle Homeless newspaper. It&#039;s called &quot;3DK&quot; (Three Don&#039;t Knows):

Naive is embarrassing
Ignorance is painful
Denial keeps healing and growth away.

The difference between the three don&#039;t knows is,
Naive can learn, Ignorance and Denial
choose not to.

by Ruanda Morrison, 1999.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a writer, Bob, as others have said, and a darned good one at that, because you write in a clearly communicates.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t start drinking until I was 32 &amp; had completed my graduate degrees. I knew about my family&#8217;s history with alcoholism &#8212; an uncle on each side of my family, one of them a PTSD- afflicted WWI combat veteran, and wasn&#8217;t interested in becoming one of &#8220;those.&#8221; Then I began drinking with coworkers after work on Friday&#8217;s&#8230;and over the next 12 years managed to ruin my marriage and lose several jobs. Over my years as a mental health professional, treating addicts, I learned how radically disconnecting addictions are. Addicts become connected to one thing, and that is the rush, the &#8220;high&#8221; from getting drunk, snorting, shooting up, watching porn, gambling, doing whatever. In the process, they disconnect from people around them, and don&#8217;t develop deep emotional relationships with people. Sobriety begins with disconnecting from what gives them the &#8220;high&#8221; and learning to reconnect with themselves and others, learning to connect with reality without a crutch or needing to run to the &#8220;high&#8221; for escape. When I began drinking, I drank to get drunk, because I thought it &#8220;freed&#8221; me from my inhibitions (it sure did do that!), and made me &#8220;free&#8221;. Instead, it led me into slavery, just like it does everyone else.</p>
<p>An acquaintance wrote the following poem, which I found printed in &#8220;Real Change&#8221;, a Seattle Homeless newspaper. It&#8217;s called &#8220;3DK&#8221; (Three Don&#8217;t Knows):</p>
<p>Naive is embarrassing<br />
Ignorance is painful<br />
Denial keeps healing and growth away.</p>
<p>The difference between the three don&#8217;t knows is,<br />
Naive can learn, Ignorance and Denial<br />
choose not to.</p>
<p>by Ruanda Morrison, 1999.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Antonio Ponce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Antonio Ponce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcoholism, or any addiction for that matter, is about not being in pain; physical, emotional or any other kind. The hell of it is, once you start self medicating, you have to take more and more just to not feel sick. I have experienced this with alcohol, food and nearly every drug there is (or was) out there when I was struggling with my own addictions 30+ years ago.

It&#039;s not logical. A junkie, a drunk, a crackhead know what they have to do to quit, but the pain of doing so and the additional pain of knowing you have failed as a person can pull you back into  addiction.

I still have my demons, my depression, my failures and pain that weighs me down every day, but God has believed in me more than I have believed in Him. He trusts me to make the right choices every day. In many things, daily, I choose poorly, but the one thing I have learned to control are my addictions. With this one victory, perhaps I can succeed in other arenas.

All it takes is one victory. One single individual success and, I believe, anyone fighting addiction can build on this success and eventually become whole again. I has taken me more than thirty years to get here and I have lost much along the way, things that can&#039;t be re-gained, but I can continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcoholism, or any addiction for that matter, is about not being in pain; physical, emotional or any other kind. The hell of it is, once you start self medicating, you have to take more and more just to not feel sick. I have experienced this with alcohol, food and nearly every drug there is (or was) out there when I was struggling with my own addictions 30+ years ago.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not logical. A junkie, a drunk, a crackhead know what they have to do to quit, but the pain of doing so and the additional pain of knowing you have failed as a person can pull you back into  addiction.</p>
<p>I still have my demons, my depression, my failures and pain that weighs me down every day, but God has believed in me more than I have believed in Him. He trusts me to make the right choices every day. In many things, daily, I choose poorly, but the one thing I have learned to control are my addictions. With this one victory, perhaps I can succeed in other arenas.</p>
<p>All it takes is one victory. One single individual success and, I believe, anyone fighting addiction can build on this success and eventually become whole again. I has taken me more than thirty years to get here and I have lost much along the way, things that can&#8217;t be re-gained, but I can continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Shane GoldStein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Shane GoldStein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is possible to grow up hurting and yes, hating. There were times that I wanted to die. The terrible constant fighting, and beatings. The confusion and fear. The all night card parties, and drinking, the old excuse that &#039;daddy&#039; was sick. The many days and even weeks with little food, and sometimes not even a bed to sleep on. The horrible memories! My parents room was next to mine. My mother had recently given birth to my baby sister. My mother was crying I----g you are hurting me,you are tearing the stitches, all the while he was grunting like an animal between my mothers sobs. 
If not for my dear grandparents, and Aunt, we would have been in absolute destitution. A business and two homes were lost to gambling and alcoholism. The radio became my friend and I loved the wonderful adventures that it brought to me. One night in a drunken rage &#039;he&#039; smashed the radio and pounded me unconscious. 
I remember when as a small child, climbing out of the kitchen window and running in my pajamas to my grandparents home, just a few blocks away. Pity for my mom turned to resentment, resentment turned to no feelings at all. I just wanted to survive. 
There are many hurtful memories. Time has healed, but the deep scars remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is possible to grow up hurting and yes, hating. There were times that I wanted to die. The terrible constant fighting, and beatings. The confusion and fear. The all night card parties, and drinking, the old excuse that &#8216;daddy&#8217; was sick. The many days and even weeks with little food, and sometimes not even a bed to sleep on. The horrible memories! My parents room was next to mine. My mother had recently given birth to my baby sister. My mother was crying I&#8212;-g you are hurting me,you are tearing the stitches, all the while he was grunting like an animal between my mothers sobs.<br />
If not for my dear grandparents, and Aunt, we would have been in absolute destitution. A business and two homes were lost to gambling and alcoholism. The radio became my friend and I loved the wonderful adventures that it brought to me. One night in a drunken rage &#8216;he&#8217; smashed the radio and pounded me unconscious.<br />
I remember when as a small child, climbing out of the kitchen window and running in my pajamas to my grandparents home, just a few blocks away. Pity for my mom turned to resentment, resentment turned to no feelings at all. I just wanted to survive.<br />
There are many hurtful memories. Time has healed, but the deep scars remain.</p>
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		<title>By: Femi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Femi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob: Reality stinks but instead of confronting it with a positive attitude, many individuals will rather seek a way out through alcohol, drugs and other addictive stuffs. Unwittingly, they forget that the ensuing bliss is not only temporary but also never takes away the stack reality of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob: Reality stinks but instead of confronting it with a positive attitude, many individuals will rather seek a way out through alcohol, drugs and other addictive stuffs. Unwittingly, they forget that the ensuing bliss is not only temporary but also never takes away the stack reality of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Call me Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Call me Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, as already said, you are a writer.  Your desire to allow writers to be heard, your intro, site work-up, the site itself, you are no less a writer then does those of us submitting to the site.
I&#039;m afraid Alcoholism touches us all...whether immediate family or three removed. And yes, like all addictions, it takes just one person to break the hold, and help the sufferer, and in turn, those of us who suffer with them. And that person is the victim. He or she has to buckkle down, make a committment and fight like hell to hold on. But It can not be done by the obviliously weakened personality, or out side pressure, programs, etc..If someone can talk you in and out of serious drinking, it&#039;s not working. If one &quot;salesman&quot; can talk you into buying it, another can do likewise. 

it takes a Higher Power to change any person, break holds, renew the mind, give strength. Strong addictions or sinful ways, can only have full lasting victory in one positive way. Don&#039;t think of it as trying something new, since nothing else worked. There is nothing else. Now don&#039;t panic and run with this next statement. Nothing short of God Himself. Christ Jesus will work. Sounds religious? Sounds too spiirtual? Well it works. And the cure stays. Yes it takes a Higher, more Powerful, more understnading Person to take your hand and pull you out of the pit ~and keep you out. All you need is Him, and a committment to follow Him without doubt or question. Try it.  It works. I know. Believe me, I know.  
Saved and Kept by Grace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, as already said, you are a writer.  Your desire to allow writers to be heard, your intro, site work-up, the site itself, you are no less a writer then does those of us submitting to the site.<br />
I&#8217;m afraid Alcoholism touches us all&#8230;whether immediate family or three removed. And yes, like all addictions, it takes just one person to break the hold, and help the sufferer, and in turn, those of us who suffer with them. And that person is the victim. He or she has to buckkle down, make a committment and fight like hell to hold on. But It can not be done by the obviliously weakened personality, or out side pressure, programs, etc..If someone can talk you in and out of serious drinking, it&#8217;s not working. If one &#8220;salesman&#8221; can talk you into buying it, another can do likewise. </p>
<p>it takes a Higher Power to change any person, break holds, renew the mind, give strength. Strong addictions or sinful ways, can only have full lasting victory in one positive way. Don&#8217;t think of it as trying something new, since nothing else worked. There is nothing else. Now don&#8217;t panic and run with this next statement. Nothing short of God Himself. Christ Jesus will work. Sounds religious? Sounds too spiirtual? Well it works. And the cure stays. Yes it takes a Higher, more Powerful, more understnading Person to take your hand and pull you out of the pit ~and keep you out. All you need is Him, and a committment to follow Him without doubt or question. Try it.  It works. I know. Believe me, I know.<br />
Saved and Kept by Grace</p>
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		<title>By: Robert W. Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert W. Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing of it is there&#039;s really no way one should guilt oneslef although as family members, especially as loved ones, and as children we internalize the other guy&#039;s grief and depression and alchoolism as something we caused--children especially believe this of their parents who drink.  When I was a kid I always thought I was the lucky one as my best friend Royce had BOTH parents under the influence while I had only one parent in this distress, in the grip of this disease.  When I learned of Royce&#039;s circumstances, I decided well hell I&#039;m a lucky kid as I only had the one to deal with.  I could not imagine the nightmare of dealing with both my parents if they were both drunks.  Saddest thing is when Royce developed spinal mininghitis as a junior in highschool, his parents were out on a binge while he lay dying in a hospital.

As I grew older I learned a good deal more about my family history with booze.  I had watched my father&#039;s father drink himself to death as well, so a little digging and I learned it went back for generations.  We had the genetic coding for it.  Instinctively, as a child, I swore to be my father&#039;s opposite in all things--especially this habit, so I have stayed away from over indulging and have never acquired a taste for it, but in effect it skips a generation, and our next generation has has far more problems with it despite everything.

We have no right to blame ourselves--any of us--for the actions of others, and we have even less right to excuse the behavior in others because even if it does run in the family and is genetifcally there, we are all blessed with the ability and gift of choice.  Unlike a monkey in a cage, we don&#039;t have to press that lever, and no one is to blame but oneself if he or she chooses to press that lever.  The only person in the end who can get a moneky off his/her back is the individual be it drinking, smoking, depression, weight control.  It takes a honest commitment.  Strangely, it is often hardest to keep a promise to oneself than to others.  I am not saying that the person does not need the support of family but as we see with Micahel Jackson, all the family in the world cannot dissuade a person bent on feeding his habits if he chooses not to listen to family or to himself--that voice within that is the voice of honesty and courage.
Rob Walker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing of it is there&#8217;s really no way one should guilt oneslef although as family members, especially as loved ones, and as children we internalize the other guy&#8217;s grief and depression and alchoolism as something we caused&#8211;children especially believe this of their parents who drink.  When I was a kid I always thought I was the lucky one as my best friend Royce had BOTH parents under the influence while I had only one parent in this distress, in the grip of this disease.  When I learned of Royce&#8217;s circumstances, I decided well hell I&#8217;m a lucky kid as I only had the one to deal with.  I could not imagine the nightmare of dealing with both my parents if they were both drunks.  Saddest thing is when Royce developed spinal mininghitis as a junior in highschool, his parents were out on a binge while he lay dying in a hospital.</p>
<p>As I grew older I learned a good deal more about my family history with booze.  I had watched my father&#8217;s father drink himself to death as well, so a little digging and I learned it went back for generations.  We had the genetic coding for it.  Instinctively, as a child, I swore to be my father&#8217;s opposite in all things&#8211;especially this habit, so I have stayed away from over indulging and have never acquired a taste for it, but in effect it skips a generation, and our next generation has has far more problems with it despite everything.</p>
<p>We have no right to blame ourselves&#8211;any of us&#8211;for the actions of others, and we have even less right to excuse the behavior in others because even if it does run in the family and is genetifcally there, we are all blessed with the ability and gift of choice.  Unlike a monkey in a cage, we don&#8217;t have to press that lever, and no one is to blame but oneself if he or she chooses to press that lever.  The only person in the end who can get a moneky off his/her back is the individual be it drinking, smoking, depression, weight control.  It takes a honest commitment.  Strangely, it is often hardest to keep a promise to oneself than to others.  I am not saying that the person does not need the support of family but as we see with Micahel Jackson, all the family in the world cannot dissuade a person bent on feeding his habits if he chooses not to listen to family or to himself&#8211;that voice within that is the voice of honesty and courage.<br />
Rob Walker</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - this post broke my heart.  I can relate having lived with an alcoholic mom.  She was sober the last three years of her life having been hospitalized and almost died.  Those last 3 years were a real gift.  I don&#039;t know what drove your brother to this - I agree with your assessment of the taste of alcohol.  I can honestly tell you as a young, single woman on my own - I got into the routine of going out with the girls or my office mates several times a week and drinking.  The day I woke up and found I couldn&#039;t remember how I got home was the day I realized I was following down my mom&#039;s road and stopped then and there.  I still went out - but drank sparkling water.  I was fortunate to have that ah-ha moment and follow through.  I have to think that alcoholism is a very complex, devastating and sad disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; this post broke my heart.  I can relate having lived with an alcoholic mom.  She was sober the last three years of her life having been hospitalized and almost died.  Those last 3 years were a real gift.  I don&#8217;t know what drove your brother to this &#8211; I agree with your assessment of the taste of alcohol.  I can honestly tell you as a young, single woman on my own &#8211; I got into the routine of going out with the girls or my office mates several times a week and drinking.  The day I woke up and found I couldn&#8217;t remember how I got home was the day I realized I was following down my mom&#8217;s road and stopped then and there.  I still went out &#8211; but drank sparkling water.  I was fortunate to have that ah-ha moment and follow through.  I have to think that alcoholism is a very complex, devastating and sad disease.</p>
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		<title>By: tbrown</title>
		<link>http://www.speakwithoutinterruption.com/site/2009/07/alcoholism-i-just-dont-understand-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator>tbrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first wife died from breast cancer at age 45.  I remarried and have a wonderful wife that loves and supports me.  Her husband was a drunk and abuser.  He eventually hung himself in the garage and she found him.  She still has emotional scars from the events including the abuse.  Drunks need help, but few are willing to giet it.  Look at that movie with Jack Lemmon as a drunk in The Days of Wine and Roses.  It really shows what drunkedness is all about.  I am sorry for the loss of your brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first wife died from breast cancer at age 45.  I remarried and have a wonderful wife that loves and supports me.  Her husband was a drunk and abuser.  He eventually hung himself in the garage and she found him.  She still has emotional scars from the events including the abuse.  Drunks need help, but few are willing to giet it.  Look at that movie with Jack Lemmon as a drunk in The Days of Wine and Roses.  It really shows what drunkedness is all about.  I am sorry for the loss of your brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Lofthouse</title>
		<link>http://www.speakwithoutinterruption.com/site/2009/07/alcoholism-i-just-dont-understand-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Lofthouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcoholics are addicted just like heroin addicts and those that say they can stop but never stop smoking pot or cigarettes, drinking coffee, etc.

Since the advent of brain scans, science has discovered an area in the brain where these types of addictions dig in and hang on. Some of us may be more genetically predisposed for this type of addiction than others. 

Meaning, once the addiction digs in and is experienced in that part of the brain, it is almost impossible to break free.  Your brain becomes a magnet that keeps bringing the addiction back when the opportunity presents itself. You may want to stop but you can&#039;t. It is hard to say no when your brain has been hard wired due to genetic predispositions that have been allowed to become a pattern. The individual becomes a sick victim of his own genetics.  

Social pressures do not help either since drugs and alcohol are so easily had and are so much apart of culture and social interactions. Once hooked, always hooked.  Hang around heavy drinkers and you will eventually take a drink. If you are genetically predisposed to become another addict, it will happen. If you are one of these people and you like to party, you are at risk.

Interesting enough, these same brain scans discovered that there are two types of love.  Early love that is also lust and this emotion take place in the same area of the brain where the high from drug and alcohol addictions are experienced.  Just like alcoholics and heroin addicts, these people become addicted to falling in love. When the feelings start to die, these people tend to break up or get divorced repeatedly just so they can fall in love again, which may explain why some people get divorced and married so many times. I am sure that during withdrawals from the love addiction, those people are as difficult to live with as the alcoholic attempting to withdraw.
 
There is another place in the brain where long term commitement and love is experienced and that area not even close in proximity to that part of the brain that is so dangerous to individuals that become addicted to alcohol, heroin or love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcoholics are addicted just like heroin addicts and those that say they can stop but never stop smoking pot or cigarettes, drinking coffee, etc.</p>
<p>Since the advent of brain scans, science has discovered an area in the brain where these types of addictions dig in and hang on. Some of us may be more genetically predisposed for this type of addiction than others. </p>
<p>Meaning, once the addiction digs in and is experienced in that part of the brain, it is almost impossible to break free.  Your brain becomes a magnet that keeps bringing the addiction back when the opportunity presents itself. You may want to stop but you can&#8217;t. It is hard to say no when your brain has been hard wired due to genetic predispositions that have been allowed to become a pattern. The individual becomes a sick victim of his own genetics.  </p>
<p>Social pressures do not help either since drugs and alcohol are so easily had and are so much apart of culture and social interactions. Once hooked, always hooked.  Hang around heavy drinkers and you will eventually take a drink. If you are genetically predisposed to become another addict, it will happen. If you are one of these people and you like to party, you are at risk.</p>
<p>Interesting enough, these same brain scans discovered that there are two types of love.  Early love that is also lust and this emotion take place in the same area of the brain where the high from drug and alcohol addictions are experienced.  Just like alcoholics and heroin addicts, these people become addicted to falling in love. When the feelings start to die, these people tend to break up or get divorced repeatedly just so they can fall in love again, which may explain why some people get divorced and married so many times. I am sure that during withdrawals from the love addiction, those people are as difficult to live with as the alcoholic attempting to withdraw.</p>
<p>There is another place in the brain where long term commitement and love is experienced and that area not even close in proximity to that part of the brain that is so dangerous to individuals that become addicted to alcohol, heroin or love.</p>
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		<title>By: paul perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too much of anything is never good for you, in the long run. 
everyone choses the road they follow and where it ultimately leads them. just a few thoughts...
it feels good to catch a buzz off a few beers or some bourbon, but when the room starts spinning uncontrollably, you know it&#039;s time to stop.
chau,
paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too much of anything is never good for you, in the long run.<br />
everyone choses the road they follow and where it ultimately leads them. just a few thoughts&#8230;<br />
it feels good to catch a buzz off a few beers or some bourbon, but when the room starts spinning uncontrollably, you know it&#8217;s time to stop.<br />
chau,<br />
paul</p>
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		<title>By: Moonbeam</title>
		<link>http://www.speakwithoutinterruption.com/site/2009/07/alcoholism-i-just-dont-understand-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator>Moonbeam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with one thing you said, Bob. You ARE a writer!

I watched my thirty-two-year-old first cousin die from cirrhosis of the liver because of his drinking. I stood there and held his mom as he breathed his last breath. I had sat by his bed a few minutes earlier, where he said to me, &quot;Don&#039;t stop writing.&quot; It touched me that in his final moments he was thinking of me. He was a handsome young man, sweet and friendly and loving. He left a wife and two young children.

My father was an alcoholic. His brother died from alcoholism. I don&#039;t understand it. As you said, it tastes awful. So, yes, it has to be the high that people get. I do understand that desire for a high. But it is so not worth it! And to drink enough to get drunk is not even pleasant. And the life alcoholics lose!

I offer up a prayer today for all alcoholics and their families. I know we have all been touched by alcoholism one way or another.

Tina Rae Dozier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with one thing you said, Bob. You ARE a writer!</p>
<p>I watched my thirty-two-year-old first cousin die from cirrhosis of the liver because of his drinking. I stood there and held his mom as he breathed his last breath. I had sat by his bed a few minutes earlier, where he said to me, &#8220;Don&#8217;t stop writing.&#8221; It touched me that in his final moments he was thinking of me. He was a handsome young man, sweet and friendly and loving. He left a wife and two young children.</p>
<p>My father was an alcoholic. His brother died from alcoholism. I don&#8217;t understand it. As you said, it tastes awful. So, yes, it has to be the high that people get. I do understand that desire for a high. But it is so not worth it! And to drink enough to get drunk is not even pleasant. And the life alcoholics lose!</p>
<p>I offer up a prayer today for all alcoholics and their families. I know we have all been touched by alcoholism one way or another.</p>
<p>Tina Rae Dozier</p>
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